Pro-Democracy Win/Loss in Hong Kong?


Umbrella Movement

To be honest, I’ve been a bit confused about the movements in Hong Kong over the past few days. The word democracy got thrown about a lot, but the response from the United Kingdom seemed to be of disappointment while those in Hong Kong celebrated a victory. Who is correct, I wondered?

So it seems that the proposal for a new electoral system where the candidates would be “screened by a pro-Beijing committee”, was voted down today by Pro-democracy lawmakers who objected to this kind of “fake democracy”. A botched walk out of almost two-dozen pro-government politicians helped to speed them to this victory.

Yet the catch is with this system voted down, Hong Kong returns to its old and current system - “under which Hong Kong’s chief executive is chosen by a 1,200-member pro-establishment “election committee” - which in the point of view of some would be a step backwards in the wrong direction, not in the right direction.

“I am sad and I am disappointed. I do not know how democratic development can be taken forward,” [Carrie Lam, Hong Kong’s number two official,] said.
Hong Kong chief executive Leung Chun-ying says 28 Hong Kong lawmakers denied 5 million people's chance to exercise their voting rights. ~@alanwongw

For those who refused to settle for any less though, it certainly would seem like a success and a chance to show Beijing that they will accept no more. Will Beijing give in though?

I think I understand the situation, but in the end I feel that both sides seem to be equally valid here, it’s whether we can predict how the other side will retaliate now that is the determining factor. Generally, Chinese people consider ‘the collective’ rather than ‘the individual’, does this act count as an act for the collective (all of China) or the individual (just Hong Kong)?

Quotes are from here.
Image from here.